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RHOSLC’s Heather Gay on Why Air Marshals Didn’t Intervene During Meredith’s Plane Meltdown & Captain Jason’s Denial of Hookup, & Claims She Has “Proof” of Lisa Leaking Stories

Posted on November 13, 2025

RHOSLC’s Heather Gay on Why Air Marshals Didn’t Intervene During Meredith’s Plane Meltdown & Captain Jason’s Denial of Hookup, & Claims She Has “Proof” of Lisa Leaking Stories

Heather Gay spoke of Meredith Marks‘ alleged plane meltdown while appearing on Tuesday night’s episode of Watch What Happens Live.

“The truth is, like, we were 9-10ths of that first class cabin, and it was all housewives and production, and it was kind of a celebrity no touch zone. They were used to our crazy behavior. We came in loud, and I don’t think it was air marshal zip-tied behavior, but I also think that celebrity played a part in it,” Heather explained on the November 11 episode of 

She then said that when it came to Lisa’s alleged leaks, she had “absolute receipts, proof, timeline, screenshots,” before noting that the discussions about them weren’t important.

“What’s important is that we evolve and move on and no longer try to build ourselves up by taking each other down … we’ll see [if we got there] after the reunion,” she noted. 

Looking back at Jason’s claim that the two of them didn’t actually hook up, Heather asked, “Nothing happened?”

“If that’s how he defines ‘nothing,’ that’s fine,” she suggested before adding that “nothing” happened.

“I love him, and we had so much fun in Australia, and it’s like, a weird kinship when you’re in a different — I mean, it’s his country. It’s a different country for me. And we’re doing press, and we’re hanging out every day. It’s his land and he was my guide in many ways,” she explained.

As for Mary’s sit-down with Meredith, 53, about her behavior toward Britani, during which Mary, 53, suggested Meredith apologize, at least for her own sake, Heather applauded Mary for cutting through Meredith’s “BS pretty quickly.”

“Meredith came in so sing-songy. And Mary was just like, ’15 minutes? 30 minutes?’ It was more than that. And I just loved watching the interaction of those two friends try to, like, break down what really happened on that plane,” Heather admitted.

Following her dispute with Lisa, 50, who reportedly shamed her for defending Britani against Meredith, Heather said she “thought it was ridiculous” that Lisa wasn’t listening to what Britani had to say about her role in the drama.

“I was trying to say, ‘Listen, Britani told me this. I witnessed this. And you are in denial,’” she explained. 

Then, after denying that Lisa lived a very different life than other members of the 

“My take on it all is like, what is your relationship with Todd? Is it open marriage and, ‘I picked a girl for you to make out with and I did this,’ or is it, ‘I love him, he’s my person, I’m monogamous?’” she wondered. “I don’t really understand. It feels like it flip-flops a lot … I mean, the truth is, I’m not that deeply invested in her relationship with Todd. I’m invested in the stories she tells us about him and if they’re true or not.”

Moving on to her three-part special, Surviving Mormonism, Heather admitted she didn’t know how her family felt about her sharing her experiences with the controversial religion.

“They won’t tell me. I have no contact. I have one brother that lives in Zurich, and he’ll be super supportive. He’s left the church after I did on the show,” she shared. “[But] I felt honored to hear their stories … It did feel like it was cathartic and therapeutic for me. It almost felt selfish that I was like, going through the process with them.”

Later, while appearing on the WWHL: After Show, Heather was asked how Lisa’s alleged leaks are different than those of Monica Garcia, 42, who was exposed for having ties to the 

“Monica didn’t have tea to leak because Monica wasn’t our friend. Monica had built a blog to tear us down with no actual facts … so it’s completely different,” she explained.

Heather then added that while she and her castmates “love and have tremendous respect for Lisa,” they “also know that she leaks stories to the media.”

The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City

 season six airs Tuesdays at 8/7c on Bravo.

Luis Ruelas was featured in a recently shared video online, in which he was seemingly seen going on a profanity-laced rant against an ex and declaring that he’d hit them “if it was legal.” But is the video real?

Following news of the dismissal of a court case, the 50-year-old Real Housewives of New Jersey star and husband of Teresa Giudice, 53, brought against his former fiancée, Vanessa Reiser, who he attempted to have thrown behind bars, a clip of Luis “going off and threatening an ex” was posted on Instagram, prompting him to speak out.

“They don’t have a woman out there that’s gonna tell me what to do the way you tell me. You deliver things with an iron fist, b*tch, and that’s why you get it back verbally to you,” Luis seemingly began in the recording, which was obtained by 

He then appeared to grow irate.

“I don’t f*cking care. I’m pissed. I’m f*cking angry! Angry!” he yelled while wearing a black hoodie and sunglasses. “I watched my children bleed in anger and pain. I’ve watched them scream and cry. They go to school, and I go to their bed and grab their pillow. As I sat here alone, dealing with all that sh*t when you made yourself important or about you. F*ck you! F*ck you!”

As he continued against the unnamed ex, Luis appeared to admit to wanting to hit her.

“If it was legal, I swear to God I’d go over there right now with a nine-iron and I’d smack you right over the f*cking head, you f*cking c*nt,” he declared. “You have no idea what the f*ck you’ve done. You don’t know every step you’ve made that you’ve crossed my path, that you’ve insulted me, that you’ve degraded me. Degraded me. That’s why I would call you a c*nt. That’s why I would tell you you’re a dime a dozen. That’s why it’s easy to look away. That’s why I ignored you.”

“I didn’t go out with other women. I stayed home with my f*cking children every day. Every f*cking day. And it was worth it. It was better than being with you, you f*cking c*nt b*tch. B*tch!” he concluded.

WARNING: The video below contains profanity.

Unsurprisingly, following the sharing of the clip, fans had a lot to say.

“I wonder what his sons and Teresa’s daughters think about this one. May the real Louie finally stand up! So disturbing!!!” one person declared.

“Teresa, take note,” another advised, along with a red flag emoji.

Someone else suspected that Bravo was distancing itself from Teresa due to her husband‘s shocking antics, which have been leaking online since they began dating in late 2020.

“Is this why Bravo is taking a break from Teresa?” they wondered.

Another said, “This is so cringey, it pained me to watch. And his theatrical performance … everything was off-putting.”

Then, after someone else wrote, “This is scary,” another agreed, “This dude is unhinged.”

Meanwhile, in response to the shared clip, Luis reportedly reached out to Up and Adam‘s 

Although there’s no real way of knowing for sure whether the video was AI or not, Adam did his due diligence and ran it through AI, which said that, based on the lighting, they didn’t feel like it was AI. However, they also said they couldn’t confirm that it wasn’t.

Following Adam’s post, some signaled a court appearance in which the clip was allegedly shown.

“That’s him. They showed that video 6 years ago in court,” one person alleged, claiming they asked Kim DePaola, 64, about the clip.

“Lol. AI, eh? From six years ago. Now, that’s funny,” another replied.

The Real Housewives of New Jersey is currently on hiatus ahead of its potential 15th season.

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